Interviewers make a choice every time they sit down with a newsmaker and start to ask questions. Do they start by warming their subject up or go straight for the jugular?

Harris praised her interlocutor, Bret Baier, as a “serious journalist,” a contrast from Trump saying Fox News was “owned” by her spokesperson Ian Sams. And she took a step to defuse last week’s self-own that her presidency would not be much different that Joe Biden’s.

Kamala Harris and Fox News host Bret Baier sparred repeatedly over immigration, Donald Trump and Harris’ record as vice president in a televised interview Wednesday night. The two frequently spoke over one another in the contentious exchange,